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(回答先: 「人権問題と称した中国攻撃」止めるべき、西側諸国を批判＝IOC会長【Record China】西洋200年、中国40年 投稿者 tk 日時 2008 年 4 月 28 日 19:11:45)
「人権問題と称した中国攻撃」止めるべき、西側諸国を批判＝IOC会長
IOC会長は確かに西側を批判しておりますが、それは性急かつ声高に
求めるやり方が間違っているということで、”「人権問題と称した
中国攻撃」止めるべき”とは言ってないと思いますよ。
FinancialTimes記事から、中国に関する部分訳と、末尾に前文を転載します。
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>Mr Rogge says while he understands the depth of emotion in the west
>on China’s human rights record, public expectations about
>the country’s pace of change are unrealistic.
ロジェ氏は言う。西側が中国の人権レコードに感情が揺すぶられていることは
理解しているが、人々があの国に求める変化の速度は非現実的だ。
>“It took us 200 years to evolve from the French Revolution.
>China started in 1949. At that time it was a country of famine,
>epidemics, floods and civil war. It had no economy, no health
>care, no education system and there was 600m of them,” he says.
「フランス革命から今の姿になるまで200年を要した。中国は1949年に
始まった。当時の中国は物資がたいへん不足し、伝染病が蔓延し、
洪水や市民紛争がある国だった。 経済も保健も教育システムも存在
しないままに、6億人の人々がいた」
>“They had to build that and it was a bumpy road. We all know that
>there were abuses under Mao and the Cultural Revolution was not
>a nice period. But gradually, steadily, over 60 years, they
>evolved, and they were able to introduce a lot of changes.”
「それらをいちから作らなければならなかった彼らの前には茨の道があった。
毛沢東と文化大革命の下で人民が酷使された好ましくない時代があったことは
みなが知る通りだ。しかし、段々と、着実に、60年かけてここまで来る間に
彼らは多くの変化を導入できたのだ」
>Back in 1949, Mr Rogge pointed out, the UK was a colonial power.
> So too were Belgium, France and Portugal, “with all the abuse
>attached to colonial powers. It was only 40 years ago that
>we gave liberty to the colonies. Let’s be a little bit more modest”.
49年に遡ると、英国は植民地を支配していた。ベルギーもフランスもポルトガルも。
とロジェ氏は指摘する。「酷使がつきものの植民地支配を。それらの植民地に
自由を与えたのは40年前に過ぎない。我々はもう少し慎み深くなろう」。
>China may not be a role model in the west, Mr Rogge concedes, but
>“we owe China to give them time”.
「中国は西側の理想の姿にはならないかもしれない」とロジェ氏は認めながらも
「しかし我々は中国に時間を与えるべきだ」。
>“You don’t obtain anything in China with a loud voice. That is
>the big mistake of people in the west wanting to add their views.
>To keep face [in Asia] is of paramount importance. All the Chinese
>specialists will tell you that only one thing works – respectful,
>quiet but firm discussion.
「中国では、声高では何も得られない。西側の人々が自分の視点をおしつけ
たがるのが大きな間違いなのだ。（アジアを）直視し続けるのは非常に重要だ。
中国専門家たちは口をそろえて言う。礼儀正しく穏やかな、しかし確固とした
対話のみが効力を持つと」。
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IOC’s Rogge asks for more time for China
By Roger Blitz in London
Published: April 26 2008 01:31 | Last updated: April 26 2008 01:31
If the International Olympic Committee wants to get the message over that sport should be kept separate from politics, someone had better tell its president.
In the armchair of his Lausanne office, Jacques Rogge is in full flow, discussing Mao, the Cultural Revolution and Europe’s colonial record – even the role of the IOC beyond sport as a force for social change.
Mr Rogge has endured a torrid three weeks since protests on the international torch relay in London set off what he later called a “crisis”, the biggest in his six-year presidency of the IOC.
Struggling to deflect criticism from human rights groups that he had turned a blind eye to China’s crackdown on riots in Tibet, Mr Rogge kept insisting the IOC was a sporting and not a political body.
Now, this Olympic yachtsman appears to be changing tack. Not once mentioning that sport and politics should be kept apart, he concedes in an FT interview that taking politics out of the Olympics was going to be “an eternal difficulty” for the games.
“There will never be a solution whereby the political world or the pressure groups will not try to leverage the games. You cannot stop that because of the prestige of the games and what they represent for mankind,” the president says.
Like most sportsmen, politics barely featured in his upbringing. The 65-year-old Belgian combined a career as an orthopaedic surgeon with an aptitude for yachting that took him to three successive Olympics.
When he was elected IOC president in 2001, three days after the body awarded the 2008 Olympics to China, Jacques Rogge represented for the IOC a clean break from the scandal-plagued regime of his predecessor, Juan Antonio Samaranch.
Mr Rogge has steered the IOC through internal reform, cleaning it of corruption and tightening up on doping control.
He has busied himself with more prosaic matters such as a cap on the number of Olympic sports and the setting up of a youth games.
But the torch relay debacle demands a rethink, and the president is sounding more like one of the Sino specialists he consulted in preparation for his talks with the Chinese leadership.
Mr Rogge says while he understands the depth of emotion in the west on China’s human rights record, public expectations about the country’s pace of change are unrealistic.
“It took us 200 years to evolve from the French Revolution. China started in 1949. At that time it was a country of famine, epidemics, floods and civil war. It had no economy, no health care, no education system and there was 600m of them,” he says.
“They had to build that and it was a bumpy road. We all know that there were abuses under Mao and the Cultural Revolution was not a nice period. But gradually, steadily, over 60 years, they evolved, and they were able to introduce a lot of changes.”
Back in 1949, Mr Rogge pointed out, the UK was a colonial power. So too were Belgium, France and Portugal, “with all the abuse attached to colonial powers. It was only 40 years ago that we gave liberty to the colonies. Let’s be a little bit more modest”.
China may not be a role model in the west, Mr Rogge concedes, but “we owe China to give them time”.
Mr Rogge says his relations with Beijing are “excellent”, although “they have their priorities and we have ours”. Sometimes those priorities contradict each other, he admits.
But the relationship has yielded two policy changes by Beijing, the IOC president claims: a media law allowing 25,000 foreign media access during the games, and environmental measures to tackle the city’s chronic pollution problems.
The media law, Mr Rogge contends, will most likely be extended into 2009 – and while there are still loopholes in it, there is little point in bellowing at the hosts for action.
“You don’t obtain anything in China with a loud voice. That is the big mistake of people in the west wanting to add their views. To keep face [in Asia] is of paramount importance. All the Chinese specialists will tell you that only one thing works – respectful, quiet but firm discussion.
“Otherwise, the Chinese will close themselves. That is what is happening today. There is a lot of protest, a lot of very strong verbal power, and the Chinese, they close themselves.”
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>“Otherwise, the Chinese will close themselves. That is what is
>happening today. There is a lot of protest, a lot of very strong
>verbal power, and the Chinese, they close themselves.”
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