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Re: その記事がこれ!過去6年間15億円の未払い。理由:アメリカはこの日本の国有地は日本国政府からもらったものと主張。
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投稿者 なんだこりゃ? 日時 2003 年 12 月 09 日 13:23:25:Wt.hRL2394uGc

(回答先: Japan Today12月8日号によると、米国政府はアメリカ大使館の賃料を1998年より支払っていないという。 投稿者 なんだこりゃ? 日時 2003 年 12 月 09 日 13:01:06)

こりゃ一体なんだ!

米国政府は日本政府の国有地を借りてアメリカ大使館を設営している。ところが1998年から過去6年間、米国政府は日本政府に賃料未払いで、それが総額15億円になっているという。

理由だが、日本政府が新しい賃料を設定したが、これに米国政府が難色を示しているという。米国政府側は、日本政府からこの国有地を譲渡された、つまり日本政府がくれた土地だから米国政府所有のものであり、賃料を支払う必要なしと文句をいっているのだそうだ。


こりゃ一体なんだってノ!

米国政府に日本の国有地が奪取されてしまった!
米国はわが国を我が物で闊歩している。日本は真にアメリカの属国になっている!、木村愛二さん、取材願います。書記長出番だ!


この記事共同通信配信とあるが、彼らのサイトでこの記事見た人いる?この記事を配信した報道メディアに接した人いる?もし、日本の報道メディアがこれを報道していないとしたら、、、それはなぜ?米国側からの圧力?それとも報道側の自主規制?これはニュースバリューが凄くあるんじゃないだろうか?国会議員は、国会で直ちにこの事情を政府側に問いただせ!

これほどなめられていいのか!

http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=1&id=281384&page=2

U.S. Embassy in Tokyo hasn't paid rent since 1998


Monday, December 8, 2003 at 03:44 JST
TOKYO — The U.S. Embassy in Tokyo has not paid the Japanese government rent for state-owned land since 1998, government officials said Sunday. They said the total amount owing from the last six years is at least 15 million yen.

The rent for about 13,000 square meters of the state-owned land inside the embassy compound has gone unpaid because the talks between Japan and the United States on the amount of new rent are proceeding with difficulty. The U.S. is arguing that Japan gave it the land, the officials said. (Kyodo News)


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they do pay rent
gucci (Dec 8 2003 - 10:38)

I used to live 2 doors down from an African Embassy. The guy always complained about the rent.


nothing is free
cwhite (Dec 8 2003 - 10:40)

you pay more for a better view.... anyone seen the Ethiopian Embassy in Japan or Britain? Anyway Japan pays everything for the US. That is everything from electricity, water, gas to land, missiles and staff (police, workers on base) and of course not to mention free parking of Aircraft Carriers, helicopters, etc, etc....

Check this out...

http://www.mapfan.com/map.cgi?SPOTICON=&Func=INDEX&MapSize=1&CENTERICON=&MAP=E139.37.49.9N35.25.14.6&ZM=12&NC=&CN=&GMain=&IStat=0&LStat=0&MapF.x=314&MapF.y=306

now spot what's wrong with this picture.... yes indeed "bungalow + biiiiiiiiiig garden" for US and the Japanese less greener side of the fence houses.... anyone care to remind me why we are paying to have their houses refurbished...


interesting
Alex (Dec 8 2003 - 11:07)

If every country got an equal plot of land it would be one thing, but it seems like some countries have way more land than others. The way I look at it, the Japanese government should assign a modest amount of land to each country but if they want more they should have to pay for it. And none of this selling their free land to make money - although you have to give props to that Scandinavian country.


wander
Nessie (Dec 8 2003 - 11:10)

"UK Embassy pays about one US dollar a year."

Man, I think it's about time to found the Democratic Plesiosaur Republic and set up an embassy in my apartment. I will reciprocate, of course, by granting embassy sites in Loch Ness.

Takers?


Nessie
Davy (Dec 8 2003 - 12:50)

The Democratic Plesiosaur Repulblic, eh?
I just set up the embassy of the Democratic Make The World Safe For Democracy Republic in my apartment.

This little rent dispute will be solved amicably.


Nessie, Davy
Bikkurikun (Dec 8 2003 - 13:26)

It has been done before:

http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/exprment/0426faux.htm

Create your own nation and get diplomatic immunity wherever you go!


U.S. Embassy in Tokyo hasn't paid rent since 1998
Bikkurikun (Dec 8 2003 - 13:29)

I also remember this Spanish guy a couple of yours ago, who claimed to be head of state of non-existent country in Europe, and who actually managed to open up an official embassy in some African or Latin American country.


Typically
Adult Film Legend (Dec 8 2003 - 13:37)

...when a country (call it country "A") crushes another country (call it country "B") in a war that country "B" started, and then country "A" puts an occupying army in country "B" for 9 years, writes its constitution, then guarantees its defense successfully for the next 60 years or so, country "A" is quite often allowed to put its embassy anywhere it so chooses and pay as little or as much rent for said embassy as it so desires.

In this particular case, it would appear that country "B" really needs the cash any way that it can get it....

Country "A" says: "Wait a minute! You gave us that."

"B": "That was before and this is now."

"A": "But you gave it to us after--you know--the war (whispered)."

"B": "Actually, you took it. But we don't talk about that so don't even go there."

"A": "OK...either way, you admit it's our, though, right? And its only 15 million dollars."

"B": "15 million yen, actually."

"A": "Yen?!"

"B" "Hai! Yen-desu."

"A": "So...amortized over 6 years that's about 2.5 million yen per year, or roughly 20 to 25 thousand dollars...correct?"

"B": "Hai!"

"A": "You mean all of us 50 thousand-dollar-a-year autocrats are sitting around and arguing about 20 thousand dollars per year in rent?"

"B": "Hai!"

"A": "Why?"

"B": "Naze? Nondedaro? (teeth sucking sound ensues)"

"A": "We have to fax Washington, but it's like the middle of the night there (looks at watch)"

"B": "Asoka (more teeth sucking)."

"A": "I'm sure we can get this straightened out. I would pay you myself right now but we can only bring 10 thousand at a time through customs."

"B": "How much cash do you have now?"

"A": "About 2 grand and some change."

"B": "Soapland ikemaska?"

"A": "Hai!"


Alex
boily (Dec 8 2003 - 14:21)

"If every country got an equal plot of land it would be one thing, but it seems like some countries have way more land than others"

Japan does billions of dollars of business with America, sends tens of thousands of tourists and students there, holds trillions of dollars of US bonds, and is dependent on America for its national security needs. Do you really think its odd that the US embassy would be larger than, say, that of Malawai or El Salvador?

That's not to say the US shouldn't perhaps pay more for its land, but the "all countries should be treated equally" thing is a bit unrealistic given the amount of use various embassies are likely to get.


this is news?
Biff Scooter (Dec 8 2003 - 15:36)

Hilarious...5 years to talk about some dinky $24,000 a year (which is peanuts to the US govt.)!


Ishihara
Spurs (Dec 8 2003 - 16:27)

I'm sure the mayor of Tokyo is behind this. He could get that stupid bank tax going so he's trying to get money somewhere else. Also he hates the US.


bikkuri
Nessie (Dec 8 2003 - 20:50)

Thanks.


U.S. Embassy in Tokyo hasn't paid rent since 1998
Jerry70 (Dec 8 2003 - 21:19)

I think the Japanese have one Embassy. The rest are consulates. No?

24G a year is peanuts. The US is obviously stuck on some point like"You don't have to pay rent anymore" which all of a sudden changed to "About that rent thing..."

To the people complaining about Japan paying for the bases....

Japan gets the world most state of the art military for the cost of facilities. The US gets a forward deployed base but only has to provide the military. Seems pretty fair both ways to me. No? Its pretty obvious that any country that crosses swords with Japan automatically crosses them with the US as well. No? So the Japanese are actually getting national security pretty cheap. No? And don't even mumble SDF. Wet paper bag comes to mind.


THE U.S.A.
Sergei (Dec 9 2003 - 02:31)

they have to be the worse country when it comes to pay up.. the are back in payments whit the U.N and they want the U.N to help them in Iraq ??? the world should turn there Back on this bozo's we don,t need there Junk


unpaid rent
talking bubbles (Dec 9 2003 - 06:37)

Since 1998? They should be kicked out and have some paying tenants move in, or build a 60 story office building on the site.

Where is the proof? Show it or get out. Americans always make excuses.
They were paying and now they said the land was given to them, again where is the proof or deed or contract. Is this another Thanks Giving Day? Give the American Indians food and thank them for their land. Get real!


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